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DESTINY HARRIS: Not been born at all. You dont really say it to yourself that way, but yeah. They have six, seven, eight, ten, fourteen.]. I had a little basketball for her. Hosted by Jad Abumrad and Robert Krulwich, Radiolab is a " show about curiosity " that examines science, history, and philosophy to answer the big questions about life. I'm going to graduate with honors and one day I'm going to be able to tell her, "Look, I did this. If you have a starving daddy, it turns out that the baby actually gets some sort of health benefit. And she's a complete nut. In this episode, originally aired in 2012, we put nature and nurture on a collision course and discover how outside forces can find a way inside us, and chan We inherited this beloved show that we first fell in love with as listeners. But if you've got a mom who licks you. Or is it? No, I've only had somebody call and say they regret that they didn't stay on birth control. I just saw them as child abusers. And I packed up my stuff, it's pretty much done. I said, "This will be the last one. He was known for going around and giving, what he called, his big show lectures, where he would wow whole audiences of people. JAD: Anyhow, so you got this guy, Paul Kammerer, who's good with animals. He's the guy who told us about Olov's work. ROBERT: That's Sam Kean again. We'll just be honest. Anyhow, so you got this guy, Paul Kammerer, who's good with animals. BARBARA HARRIS: I already knew that if I ever got a little girl, I was going to name her Destiny. These are women who love their children, who sought help. Listen Jan 27, 2023 Birthstory A sperm, an egg, two wombs, four countries, and money. So if they saw somebody who was starving as a kid in 1820, they could then see, "Well, when those people had children and grandchildren, did anything change? Look, in the end, what do I know? CARL ZIMMER: Is your wife going to hear this? JAD: It's off-limits. I don't like to upset people. JAD: Lamarck said, You wanna know how a giraffe got its long neck?, JAD: One day this giraffe, mother giraffe, lets say, was looking up in the tree and saw some fruit, and had to stretch he neck, and stretch again. OLOV BYGREN: So they didn't starve to death. When you first hear about this, what goes through your mind? You're eight, sorry. Maybe they'd try and jump back out, but it was still hot so they'd have to jump back in. The question that was stuck in my head right then was, "If you could choose between being born knowing that your life might end up like that and not like it is now, or not been born at all, what would you have done?". The team that creates each episode, including hosts Jad Abumrad and Robert Krulwich, are master storytellers. Move on to the next cage, yes, no? And so, you could only see one nuptial pad, and it all comes down to thisand all of that was just about to fall apart. Yeah, it drifts into something like a shopping channel. CARL ZIMMER: She carries your kids for nine months and you're like, "That poor male toad.". Since birth. The bit of DNA that will give this baby when it grows up the instincts to be nice to its baby, and lick that baby. JAD: Everybody we talked to seems to think there's something really interesting going on here. And, I mean, I have straight A's and I'm making it work. You know, just take a little peek for themselves, and every time SAM KEAN: Kammerer said no, they were his specimens. Just don't have any more children because, at that point, I didn't really know any of them. And he said, "Barbara, I'm not buying a school bus." CARL ZIMMER: He was mighty skeptical. It would be wrong to think that they represent all women who use drugs while they're pregnant. BARBARA HARRIS: "She's born and tested positive for PCP crack and heroin." OLOV BYGREN: Well It's one-fourth, we can we say. And um PAT: Doctors would later explain to Barbara that Destiny's mom had been addicted to drugs while she was pregnant. BARBARA HARRIS: Light bothered him, noise bothered him. I decided to have a press conference in my front yard to announce what I was doing. Methyl groups are pretty sticky, they're hard to get off. JAD: Yes. ROBERT: Just for those years. PAT: And all over the political spectrum, from Hollywood lefties to social conservatives. And that's when things would start to get out of control. OLOV BYGREN: They didn't have grains. Yeah. JAD: I got to say this is spooky. LYNN PALTROW: The fact that you're motivated by a really beautiful, important value, that we want healthy kids, doesn't mean the mechanism you're using is going to end up helping those kids. So, in the end, where do you come down on this? That's my little girl. But with the midwife toad, the female Lays her eggs on land and then the male midwife toad comes along And actually kind of sticks them to his back legs, like a bunch of whitish grapes, and then hops around with them basically until they hatch. ROBERT: But then, a few years would pass, crops would bounce back. In this episode, originally aired in 2012, we put nature and nurture on a collision course and discover how outside forces can find a way inside us, and change not just our hearts and minds, but the basic biological blueprint that we pass on to future generations. Maybe like those methyl things we were telling you about with the rats. They won't grow much on the outside, but on the inside That is the time where the sperms are developing. ], That's their choice, but the babies don't have a choice.]. I had a little basketball for her. Whole lifetime of stretching. They wanted to see basically the effects of starvation on multiple generations. And so, they bring MICHAEL MEANEY: A lot of friends to the party. I wonder. SAM KEAN: Really slowly, gradually, achingly slowly. SAM KEAN: That was the implication, except Kammerer tried to defend himself by saying CARL ZIMMER: "Do you think I'm a Dummkopf, or an idiot, because that's what I would have to be if I left a forgery with ink standing around openly in the laboratory where so many of my enemies would have entry?". Because we had already had to upgrade from a car to a van, from a condo to a home. ROBERT: Meaning that they had less incidence of heart disease? PAT: Did that scare you at all? We actually sent our friend, Pejk Malinovski, to the archives in Stockholm to check it out. In pictures, he has that, you know, that crazy Einstein fuzzy hair thing. A lot of times that's not the case. [ARCHIVAL CLIP, Jad Abumrad: Whats that called?]. ROBERT: A few years later, there'd be a harsh winter. Yep, Im a professor in the faculty of medicine at McGill University in Montreal. Because there is more data, more information about the people of verkalix, going farther back into the past than you can find almost anywhere else on Earth. ROBERT: You cant say that. SAM KEAN: And, you know, there was kind of antisemitism growing at this time, so he thought that someone had framed him, and six weeks after Nobel published his results in Nature, Kammerer sent a letter to Moscow. OLOV BYGREN: It's a small forest area, very beautiful. Were less prone to diabetes. By all accounts a pretty good-looking guy. And I just felt like it was in one of those moments that contains everything that's good about us as people. Kammerer puts on a suit and he walks off into the mountains Outside Vienna on a Rocky mountain trail. How was this woman allowed", "To walk into the hospital and drop off a damaged baby and just walk away with no consequences?". FRANCES CHAMPAGNE: You would be licking them quite a lot. Yeah. You're obviously a great mom, but that feels cold to me. All these chemicals racing by crashing into it, sticking, and one of the bits that gets covered up is that little bit that makes the proteins that create a maternal instinct. Who are you? And so, her name is Kalia. [chuckles], OLOV BYGREN: Yes, yes. ], This could mean sterilization, it could mean getting an IUD.]. ROBERT: And there were from the beginning. There was a newspaper called The Daily Express and they have these headlines that come out. JAD: How do these simple little traits get passed forward? And Destiny was in the other room, sleeping or something, I'm not sure. Knock it right off the DNA. It's against the rules. He was a born nurturer and he adored animals. But here's what I did not know about DNA. Plus, find other cool things we did in the past like miniseries, music videos, short films and animations, behind-the-scenes features, Radiolab live shows, and more. Take a look, explore and subscribe! JAD: He works at the Karolinska Institute in Sweden where he studies population data. She's somewhere, but it's not good from what we've heard. PAT: And as soon as she got there to pick him up, she could tell that something was wrong. They suddenly had to get by on a tiny fraction of the food that they were used to. BARBARA HARRIS: After I've gotten to know so many of the women. You dont really say it to yourself that way, but yeah. And right now, I'm student teaching. JAD: You can imagine these toads are like, "Dammit, fine. But she says she doesn't feel that way anymore. This is real physical-chemical interaction between what's going on in the environment and what's going on with the DNA. Who are they? And he said, "Barbara, I'm not buying a school bus." Your boys will first grow taller and taller for the next few years, and when they get to be about 9, 10 years old, they're going to stop growing just for a few years. So almost instantaneously, the mother's tongue has reached into the baby's brain cells. All the babies I had seen and all the people that have called me to tell me about their babies that were damaged. I wont say too much more except it includes one of my favorite kind of scientific parables that like Ive ever heard. MICHAEL MEANEY: Yeah, it drifts into something like a shopping channel. This week The Science Show introduces Radiolab from WNYC in New York City. All these women who have so many babies and never try to seek drug treatment. So were getting close to the moment of truth, because there it is. PAT: Barbara has this drawer in her desk. JAD: Well, its offensive. And those lucky ones, according to Darwin's theory, they would have had to have been born with some random mutation in their genes That gave them an advantage in this situation. Okay, well of them, don't really know what happened to her. Who are you? They have found very similar effects for smoking, for instance. She was totally an oops kid. But she says, you can tell right away, just by looking, that some rat moms don't lick their kids a lot. I got these genes from somewhere, but I kind of feel like she was a surrogate, like she carried me for my real mom. ], [ARCHIVAL Clip, News: To any drug-addicted woman who will agree to have no more babies. They both say that they actually often forget that they're not biologically related. Because theyre reaching for the tops of trees. I'm in public health. His famous example was giraffes. ROBERT: So what is the licking doing then? So moms licking activates serotonin, and it's released onto brain cells in the hippocampus. Like, mine are bigger, you know." But the story he told us begins around 25 years ago. I think all parents do this, is that you slip into this Lamarckian delusion that What you do with your kids can somehow rewrite all of that. PAT: And in 1989, when the story we're telling now started, she was living in California, in Orange County. I had asked for a newborn, so when the social worker called me, she said, "I have this cute little baby girl for you but she's eight months old. Where sound illuminates ideas, and the boundaries blur between science, philosophy, and human experience. PAT: Isaiah would sleep and he would scream. PAT: And she told Barbara, "There's something you need to know about this baby.". ROBERT: But the story he told us begins around 25 years ago. You know, when smart people say, you know, "There's no such thing as nature and nurture it's only interaction of the two," You're like, "What the hell does that mean?" Actually, the idea itself is pretty old. Yeah. ], [ARCHIVAL Clip, Daytime Talkshow: You get them $200 each, which they can spend on crack. But it failed. ", And I called my husband again at work and said, "They want to know if we want to take the baby." All right, I'll get in the water." And to believe anything else, that's naive. They didn't have grains. MICHAEL MEANEY: What happens when moms lick their pups is that the pup beccomes aroused. Do you have any theories for how this tongue is tickling the DNA, or whatever it's doing? ROBERT: They would experience these wild changes from harvest to harvest. JAD: Actually, the idea itself is pretty old. We spay them. JAD: In just two generations, these toads seem to have done something that should have taken, I don't know, 50, 100 generations? I'm almost done. They willed the neck to get longer, the muscles to get bigger. KARIN BORGKVIST LJUNG: Yes, he was retarded. And in 1989, when the story we're telling now started, she was living in California, in Orange County. We ask deep questions and use investigative journalism to get the answers. The show is nationally syndicated and is available as a podcast. He actually coined the word biology, too. JAD: How do those cycles perpetuate? I just saw them as child abusers. Inheritance | Radiolab Podcast 4,710 views Apr 8, 2022 Radiolab 43.8K subscribers From the Radiolab podcast: How your grandfather's diet can affect your lifespan, heart health and even. Test the outer edges of what you think you know. Radiolab is a radio program broadcast on public radio stations in the United States, and a podcast available internationally, both produced by WNYC.Hosted by Latif Nasser and Lulu Miller, each episode focuses on a topic of a scientific and philosophical nature, through stories, interviews, and thought experiments.. Radiolab's broadcast edition airs as an hour-long program each week while the . He actually coined the word biology, too. When I started spending some time with Destiny, Barbara's 22-year-old daughter. [ARCHIVAL Clip, Panel: You don't think that they should have their children back?]. He thought that you could kind of engineer societies by changing the environment. JAD: So we're going to leave you with a story from our producer, Pat Walters, about one woman's radical JAD: A few months ago, Pat made his way down in North Carolina, to a small suburb outside of Charlotte to visit this family. We neuter them.". FRANCES CHAMPAGNE: This is real physical-chemical interaction between what's going on in the environment and what's going on with the DNA. Well, lets not get too excited too fast because we have a story to tell and this tale leaves me a little queasy. Okay, so lets get going and stick with your boy, Lamarck, just for a sec. So moms licking activates serotonin, and it's released onto brain cells in the hippocampus. I find myself thinking like, Okay, I know these kids have their genes half from me, half from my wife. So for Isaiah, being born was like just being cut off. [ARCHIVAL CLIP, Jad Abumrad: Do you see the owl?]. You don't think that they should have their children back?]. But at that point just two of the six boys were living at home, Brian and Rodney. He thought it worked with humans, too. MICHAEL MEANEY: Kick off certain hormonal systems. JAD: When rats have more of this protein, they will act more motherly. That kind of 30 years? PEJK MALINOVSKI: Here we have how much they harvested. fact checked by Jamie Frater. [laughs] "This may hurt you my son, but I'm doing it for my grandchildren.". SAM KEAN: Lamarck, Jean-Baptiste Lamarck. PAT: So Barbara and her son got in the car and drove across town to the foster home where Destiny had been living for the past eight months. [ARCHIVAL Clip, News: Barbara Harris says she's convinced more than a dozen women], [ARCHIVAL Clip, News: Have accepted her offer to be sterilized in return for money.]. JAD: And then, Michael just launched into this thing. What do I know? Theyd basically starve. ], I'd like everybody to meet, please, Barbara Harris. Truth is, we dont know precisely how this happens but somehow the experience of starvation marks the DNA. Females seem to hate laying eggs in the water, but is that the end of the story? PAT: She did. I mean, it's pretty common but like, here's a for instance, my dad from my entire life had this thing where if someone was whistling, he would. The results are there. JAD: Is that a genetic hatred of whistling that I just had? Oh actually, real thing, before we go, Latif. And Barbara is not offering that. Last I heard she was living on the streets in LA. Just to be sure, we asked Frances Champagne what she thinks of this data. They all go down to the DNA, surround that methyl and just, pow! Or is it? Thats just the cold logic of Darwinian evolution. Then she goes, "Oh wait, I didn't give birth to you. What do you mean? One parent stretching isnt going to do anything, see thats the bummer of Darwinian evolution. Well, yep, that is so true. PAT: Who gave Destiny her first checkup told Barbara BARBARA HARRIS: That she was delayed and she was always going to be delayed because of her prenatal neglect. PAT: And I told Destiny I was thinking about this and asked her about it. ROBERT: Cause we were talking to science writer, Carl Zimmer, and he told us that back in the early 1900s, this tension between Lamarck and Darwin got extra tense. I don't think that puts me in the same category as Hitler. At this really marvelous place called the Vivarium. It's only the mechanisms are not so clear. PAT: Which I find kind of hard to believe but, then again, I must have read at least 100 news articles as I was reporting this story. Its just That's just how I've always looked at it. I mean, the idea that they could be constrained by their DNA, that maybe one of us gave them a bit of DNA thats gonna hold them back? You feel kind of hemmed in by what your grandfather did? You know, the fact is that taking care of animals, trying to keep them alive in a building is not an easy thing, especially if it's 1903. JAD: In those books you can read everything about the citizens of verkalix, going back hundreds of years. I already knew that if I ever got a little girl, I was going to name her Destiny. JAD: Serotonin gets into the brain cells, and according to Michael unleashes MICHAEL MEANEY: A whole series of molecular events inside the cell. OLOV BYGREN: Well, the DNA, the RNA, micro-RNAs, histone. Basically, the midwife toad has a strange habit for toads. FRANCES CHAMPAGNE: So, we have our rats in the lab and JAD: They thought, "Let's just see if we can figure out how it is the rat mothers pass down their parenting skills?". I'm not saying that these women are dogs but they're not acting any more responsible than a dog in heat. I went to the hospital and picked him up. CARL ZIMMER: So they can grab onto the female and hold tight while they're mating. A little village? I make a difference to her. So heres the backstory. I just have to read this to you. Once a kid is born, their genetic fate is pretty much sealed. And there were from the beginning. His famous example was giraffes. Assuming that you can survive the ordeal, and you grow up, and you have kids of your own, the data seems to say that your kids will benefit from your suffering. PAT: But were getting ahead of ourselves here. And were trying to think about how do we keep it the same in a lot of ways, but also how do we let it grow into something beyond what it was originally built to be. ROBERT: If you were a great rat mommy, what would you be doing with your rat baby? He'd fall asleep and just wake up screaming. PAT: That's a lot of people. It was something they acquired during their lifetime. It would be wrong to think that they represent all women who use drugs while they're pregnant. ], [ARCHIVAL CLIP, BARBARA HARRIS: Like you said, when you were in your addiction like she is], [ARCHIVAL CLIP, BARBARA HARRIS: I didn't say I'm God. But that you supposedly can't get to. ROBERT: And rewrite the so-called rules of genetics. She asked my opinion and that's what I'm giving. PAT: She actually emailed me afterwards and adjusted that number down a couple hundred. PAT: Filled with dozens of letters from women that she's paid. You got to help boost if you had a starving grandfather. PAT: Lynn has become one of Barbara's fiercest critics. Destiny has, what, three brothers and sisters that also were raised with her? Sincerely, Jennifer.". But then, a few years would pass, crops would bounce back. There was a newspaper called The Daily Express and they have these headlines that come out. They present previous theories on evolution and then present the currently accepted Darwinian Theory of Evolution. And then they're going to basically revel at that particular spot and turn on that gene. And when he examined it, he noticed that there was a syringe hole there. ROBERT: That's interesting. And very often, one of them will just go crashing into the DNA and it'll stick there like a barnacle or a glob of peanut butter. The sperm carries these marks to the next generation. I just didnt think. Olov told us, take heart disease. JAD: Because you begin with a mother's lick that ends up with a deep, deep change in the baby, not just the good, warm, fuzzy feeling, but a fundamental shift in who that baby is, and who that baby will be. But according to Kammerer, here's what happened when he heated up the toads little cage. Destiny says one day, she and her mom were in the car, and her mom said She said, "I don't know, you know, maybe they'll grow bigger? I think the Swedish data are really, really strong, and very reliable. JAD: Turning down a job that they'd offered him. And, I mean, I have straight A's and I'm making it work. Isaiah would sleep and he would scream. So now, the genes can make the proteins that make the rats a good mom? I mean, the idea that they could be constrained by their DNA, that maybe one of us gave them a bit of DNA thats gonna hold them back? Which I find kind of hard to believe but, then again, I must have read at least 100 news articles as I was reporting this story. Well, the DNA, the RNA, micro-RNAs, histone. Full disclosure, she's Robert's sister's partner. I'm Sam Kean's dad. Catch up with new episodes and hear classics from our archive. PAT: That's really impressive. And Barbara and Destiny walked me out to my car. Do you know anything about the other four? Also, thanks to Carl Zimmer whose latest is. Like, "How did this happen? JAD: But that you supposedly can't get to. Except he had one. And when I found out the bill didn't pass, I just thought, "I have to come up with something else. ROBERT: Including a particular amphibian that plays a very big part in this story. They have six, seven, eight, ten, fourteen.]. You're slippery, partner's slippery. PAT: All these women who have so many babies and never try to seek drug treatment. DESTINY HARRIS: No, she was an oops kid. Please welcome Barbara.]. Because, you know, that Ive got these two kids, right? JAD: So now, the genes can make the proteins that make the rats a good mom? In a very real way, weve been thinking a lot about inheritance. We need to oblige the constraints of WNYC copyright arrangements and apologise for any inconveniences caused. I think what's weird here is that is that we started trying to make a difference in our children and now we're surprise attacked by our grandparents. Yeah. Visit our website terms of use at www.wnyc.org for further information. And then they're going to basically revel at that particular spot and turn on that gene. She said, "Thank you so much for the gift, I bought my son an excavator truck, remote control and some summer outfits." Just until they hatch and then 'til they go off. Push yourself and you got it.". CARL ZIMMER: But but theres like some hope here because JAD: Okay, all right, this is interesting. ROBERT: But, this hour were gonna fight this sort of sad sack feeling of inevitability and impotence. I just didn't think. JAD: It makes a kind of common sense, really. He'd fall asleep and just wake up screaming. ROBERT: And that advantage, whatever it was, because it starts with one individual, and then it gets passed onto the kids, and then onto their kids, it would take a long, long, long time to spread through the whole population because, generally, that's how evolution works. You know, you've got all these chemicals around. PAT: Over the past five years, if you look at our tax return. View Radiolab_-_Inheritance_Questions.docx from BISC MISC at University of Mississippi. DESTINY HARRIS: And right now, I'm student teaching. I agree with Lynn, that this program does perpetuate a stereotype. I could have turned out like some of the other kids. ROBERT: Frankly, this makes being 9, 10, 11, 12 like a rather crucial. Accuracy and availability may vary. [ARCHIVAL Clip, Daytime Talkshow: You know what they're going to go do with that money. Don't you see, somehow the mother's tongue is getting all the way down in there and going [mumbles] and messing with the baby's DNA. Were just talking about toad, I thought. Sat her on my lap, with her little dress on and her little curly hair. Saying the mother had given birth to a baby girl, did we want her? Thyroid hormones then get into the brain and they turn on certain neural chemical signals. And if you haven't, you can choose to have an IUD, or an implant put in which will last for several years. There's going to be this massacre of toads and only a few lucky ones are going to survive. Visited Kammerer's lab when Kammerer wasn't there. Hosted by Lulu Miller and Latif Nasser, Radiolab is a podcast known for using innovative sound design to ask deep questions and investigative journalism to get the answers. Then, Carl told us about this research that showed Well, he couldn't quite remember the details. Isaiah's in college and Taylor and Brandon, I met them at Barbara's house and they seemed to be fine. She's 22 now and she's never even met her birth mom. That's what good rat mothers do, they lick their babies a lot. SAM KEAN: This is what's called the slow growth period. I initially felt very hopeful and excited about this research because it seems to suggest that a body, one body can respond to an environment and change and be flexible in a way we didn't think was possible. And, you know, there was kind of antisemitism growing at this time, so he thought that someone had framed him, and six weeks after Nobel published his results in Nature, Kammerer sent a letter to Moscow. Well, there was an expert on reptiles named G. Kingsley Noble. JAD: His reputation was that he could get inside the mind of, say, a salamander and know just what it wanted to eat. We inherited this beloved show that we first fell in love with as listeners. SAM KEAN: In a little community called verkalix. You have to look at one cage, say, are they licking? FRANCES CHAMPAGNE: Not usually because it upsets people and I'm Canadian. ROBERT: According to Darwin, life and changes are ruled by chance. LYNN PALTROW: I think I was really horrified and terrified. It is hosted by Lulu Miller and Latif Nasser. JAD: [laughs] Youre just just judo, that's all this is. like they could be whistling six tables over in a restaurant and he would turn around and be like, "Stop that," it was like it was scraping his very nerves. Support Radiolab by becoming a member of The Lab today. ], What's the worst thing you have been called by one of your critics?]. One-fourth? You can do this. What they decided to do first was to try to figure out which rat was which, which meant, interestingly, counting all the legs. ROBERT: And youre saying that part of the DNA is covered up? Where we sought, they will find. And at a time when you're not making the best decisions anyway. FRANCES CHAMPAGNE: Putting this into context, you know, you have a rat mom and they have about 16 to 20 babies. All of our writers are dedicated to their job and do their best to produce all types of academic papers of superior quality. Cause we were talking to science writer, Carl Zimmer, and he told us that back in the early 1900s, this tension between Lamarck and Darwin got extra tense. Move on to the next cage, yes, no? JAD: To fellow named Jean-Baptiste Pierre Antoine de Monet, chevalier de Lamarck. Its something I still think about all the time. ROBERT: But the results are very clear. ROBERT: And it just so happens this town is a perfect place to dig. Is it a big town? Like Id be like, Weve got the keys, were gonna trash the house., LATIF: Anyway, we think about that all the time and I was just talking to Lulu about that and she was just like, You know, theres a radiolab about this.. Most toads, he says, love to stay in the water. We ended up talking to the guy who did the work. Its a terrible thought! MICHAEL MEANEY: I was an undergraduate student. OLOV BYGREN: Methylations, phosphorylation, and so on. And he says, "This isn't a nuptial pad, it looks darkened but that's just ink.". SAM KEAN: You feel kind of hemmed in by what your grandfather did? Transcripts and recorded audio may be available for many of the programs you hear on WNYC. Well, it was a zoo where there was all sorts of experiments going on. Peanut butter, there we go. LYNN PALTROW: Are there people whose drug use is so out of control they can't parent? PAT: Watching this, I couldn't help but think that Destiny's very existence is probably the most interesting argument against what Barbara is doing. Is it a big town? Serotonin gets into the brain cells, and according to Michael unleashes A whole series of molecular events inside the cell. ], I'm going to go out into the streets and offer addicted women money to use birth control. This is nice and quiet. ROBERT: And to believe anything else, that's naive. And I know fate is gonna give them a couple random mutations in those genes. Yes. More brain cells? You know? So yeah, she keeps me busy. 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